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I am not unsympathetic to the Paelestinian people, Graham. But I have no use for the Iranian backed Hamas. Israel posed no threat to Iran, unlike the British to Ireland. Britain conquered Ireland in 1169 and always held the Irish in low esteem - after all they were a Celtic Nation, like the Scots and Welsh, not good purebred Anglo Saxon conquerers like the Anglo Saxon Normans they were (yeah that's right - they were never purebred) [For the record I am 96% Scottish according to my genetic map] After Henry the 8th the Brits had a further argument - those Irish stuck to Roman Catholicism for heaven's sake (of course the Brits used to be Catholics themselves) Apparently it was mostly a matter of principle for the English 'we conquered you dammit, stay conquered'.

In Palestine the situation is not quite the same. Israel is a product of the UN and Great Britain,. (the English or the United Kingdom whatever you want to call it) They are the ones who screwed up,. Since the Europeans were the ones who tortured, punished, and despised the Jews for centuries. [The Diaspora went on for a very long time.] They were correct in their effort to carve out a property in which the Jewish people could carry on their lives and religion in peace and harmony. And since the first we heard of the Jews historically was approximately where Israel stands today. But there were other problems the UN and British overlooked. The Palestinians had been living on that same property for a few centuries - ok, no problem, they were after all a British colony, part of the British empire on which the sun never set.

So Britain arbitrarily agreed to carve Israel out BUT, The British were largely Christian Protestants oops! They wanted certain "holy" places preserved for International worship and pilgrimage, Thus they did not include Jerusalem in Israel despite the fact that biblically Jerusalem had long been the Capitol city of the Jews. The Jewish saying during the pogroms was 'next year in Jerusalem' not 'next year in Israel'. Apparently Muslims as well as Christians held Jerusalem as a shrine. So the Jews accepted the loss of Jerusalem and set their capitol in Tel Aviv.

The other huge mistake, was in thinking the Palestinians - being a third world nation had no dreams of their own BS. They gave them the teensy weensy Gaza strip and what we call the West Bank with hundred of miles dividing the same people. Dumb, stupid, irresponsible.

So, the other Muslim nations vowed to destroy Israel. and several attempted to do so, Egypt, Lebanon, and other Arabic States.

Meanwhile in Iran (formerly part of the great empire of Persia) kicked out the Pahlevi aristocrats and replaced them with theocrats instead - much as the 'pretend communists' did in Russia, they killed the last Czar and his family and ultimately replaced them with Stalin, who instead of declaring himself emperor, made himself dictator for life (he still lived like an aristocrat, as does Putin, but with the public facade of the exalted "worker".

These new theocrats in Iran didn't want to get their own hands dirty, instead they sponsored (financially) and trained a bunch of terrorists to destroy Israel. Hamas and Hezbollah. The Houthi's Iran also sponsors are the pirates who bring in wealth from attacking commercial shipping.

With that background we have the continual ongoing war for Israel from several fronts. Prior to Netanyahu, the Israelis successfully squashed every attack and terrorist activity against them. The US and many European countries helped with financial and weapons support so Israel needed to supply the military.

Netanyahu is basically evil, the way Trump and Putin are. There is nothing good in any of them. The Israelis would be wise to grab Netanyahu now and throw his loathsome body in prison (or summarily execute him - I don't care which) But we, the rest of the world need to make Iran haul in all its terrorists, cease and desist from interfering with the governance or religion of any other nation and stop persecuting women in its own country. Until that is accomplished I see little hope for that entire area.

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